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Old 07-10-2011, 11:07 AM
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Wrench Have you done it yet??????????

I'm looking for some personal experience with Big Bore kits.

If anyone has done any engine upgrades, I'd like to hear

what kit you installed?

did you change the impeller and or fan?

and if there was anything you'd do differently if you did it again.

Any info from dealers would be welcome, but I really want to hear form people that have already done this work.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 07-10-2011, 12:25 PM
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FST kit...best bang for the buck...
Dasa Racing in Riverside did the work...but I also recommend LTI in Anaheim...
I recommend you buy the radiator and/or at least a oil cooler to help with the increased heat of the added cc's...
I kept the stock valves but had the heads ported...DASA and I have built several motors this way and it seems to be a reliable way to build a engine. Spent a considerable amount of time on the dyno to get it just right. Also added the DASA exhaust, Dalton clutch & clutch hat. Don't know if I would try anything different as it has held up for 3 season's now...very happy with it...

Total cost was around $2000 by the time it was said and done...
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Old 07-10-2011, 01:07 PM
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FST kit...best bang for the buck...
Dasa Racing in Riverside did the work...but I also recommend LTI in Anaheim...
I recommend you buy the radiator and/or at least a oil cooler to help with the increased heat of the added cc's...
I kept the stock valves but had the heads ported...DASA and I have built several motors this way and it seems to be a reliable way to build a engine. Spent a considerable amount of time on the dyno to get it just right. Also added the DASA exhaust, Dalton clutch & clutch hat. Don't know if I would try anything different as it has held up for 3 season's now...very happy with it...

Total cost was around $2000 by the time it was said and done...
what he said. i went with the dasa kit and had them build it. stock valves with port and polish... i built an oil cooler for mine, and a multipass radiator. i run the muzzy exhaust and vfj clutch. going on second season now... fast and reliable. as far as jims $2000 price above goes.... that is just for the motor and motor work. clutch, exhaust, cdi, impeller, radiator, and oil cooler are extra!
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Just bought a FST kit, did you install it by yourself or you brought it into a shop to have it installed.
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Old 07-11-2011, 07:32 AM
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I'm looking for some personal experience with Big Bore kits.

If anyone has done any engine upgrades, I'd like to hear
what kit you bought,
how much it cost,
how much work it was to install the kit
and if there was anything you'd do differently if you did it again.

Any info from dealers would be welcome, but I really want to hear form people that have already done this work.

Thanks in advance.
I would say Sandjunkie is pretty close but final cost depends on who does your install. The FST 840 is reliable but you need to do the other extra's to help keep it cool. Radiator, water impeller & oil cooler are a must IMO. Another option is to stay with the stock bore and just upgrade to HC pistons & cams and include some head work, ie valves & porting. It just depends how deep into your wallet you are willing to go.
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Old 11-05-2011, 11:59 AM
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Well, I bought a Muzzy kit. It's all installed, and I'm just getting the motor in today. I should be able to start my baby tomorrow. HEEHAW!

It's been a long road though... I didn't know my bottom end was toasted as well, so I'm WAY over budget.

It better knock my socks off.
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Old 11-05-2011, 12:02 PM
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It better knock my socks off.
I don't think you will need to worry about that. Best thing you can do is find a stock machine close to you that you can drive then drive your machine. Not even comparable.
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Old 11-05-2011, 04:59 PM
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Have a 2010 840 built by Benchmark and just the Muzzy impeller and a Benchmark oil cooler the car flat out rips. I have no problems with oil or coolant temps. Make sure you put in ARP studs and a catch can other than that you should be done.
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LTI did my BBK and it has ran strong for 2 seasons now I did their oil cooler and siphon break and added a water temp gauge it never see's above 205
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:34 AM
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Well, it's been damn near a year since it blew my stock engine. Took me a long time to get the motor done up and installed. I drove for 50 miles and blew the head gasket.

Turns out the surface of the cylinder was not cleaned up very well when it was refurbished.

Cost me an additional $1000 buck and three weeks of riding time, but I've got her back again.

I hope the head gasket thing was only a one time thing. If this turns out to be an ongoing thing, I won't be able to afford to fix it again.
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Old 05-07-2012, 07:24 PM
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LTI did my BBK and it has ran strong for 2 seasons now I did their oil cooler and siphon break and added a water temp gauge it never see's above 205
Hi J, if LTI built your motor you probably have one of our kits (must be a std bore kit if you need a catch can) and water pump. Our water pump is a must for you southern guys as it double's the coolant flow and really keeps the temps down and constant.
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Old 05-07-2012, 07:28 PM
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Well, it's been damn near a year since it blew my stock engine. Took me a long time to get the motor done up and installed. I drove for 50 miles and blew the head gasket.

Turns out the surface of the cylinder was not cleaned up very well when it was refurbished.

Cost me an additional $1000 buck and three weeks of riding time, but I've got her back again.

I hope the head gasket thing was only a one time thing. If this turns out to be an ongoing thing, I won't be able to afford to fix it again.
If your having the heads and cylinders machined with a face mill, they have to be MIRROR finish. Ideally they should be machined in a lathe, then the machine marks help hold the gasket instead of creating a path for pressure to leak.
If your making any power with a plated 840, you'll want to have them O ringed as the cylinder flex's a lot and when the cylinder flex's out, it pulls the gaskets surface of the cylinder away from the head.
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Old 05-07-2012, 08:06 PM
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I bought an engine kit from Muzzy's. The cylinders were recycled, bored, and nickiciled. I dropped my engine and the kit off at a local builder, (typically a snowmobile shop).

They (nor I) had any reason to believe that the cylinders would need any further prep after spending a grand for them.

The kit came with kermetic gaskets. They have some sort of coating.

My Builder mentioned that he is familiar with "O ringed" cylinders. I wish Muzzys used that technology. Unfortunately they don't.

I don't know what kind of power I'm making. It's got a fair bit more torque than it used to with just the duel exhaust and MSD.

I hope it keeps a seal this time. I had the cylinders and the heads sanded down and got new gaskets.
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Old 05-07-2012, 08:16 PM
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I bought an engine kit from Muzzy's. The cylinders were recycled, bored, and nickiciled. I dropped my engine and the kit off at a local builder, (typically a snowmobile shop).

They (nor I) had any reason to believe that the cylinders would need any further prep after spending a grand for them.

The kit came with kermetic gaskets. They have some sort of coating.

My Builder mentioned that he is familiar with "O ringed" cylinders. I wish Muzzys used that technology. Unfortunately they don't.

I don't know what kind of power I'm making. It's got a fair bit more torque than it used to with just the duel exhaust and MSD.

I hope it keeps a seal this time. I had the cylinders and the heads sanded down and got new gaskets.
The problem might not have been the cylinders, but your heads. Did you have the heads cut?
I wouldn't sand them down, you can check them that way on a surface plate, just a couple rubs. If you see full contact then you should be good, if you have to sand them flat, you won't be.
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It would be expected that for that kind of money it would be a true flat surface......cant believe a reputable name like muzzys would send out an inferior product.Good luck with the install
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