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sandslider · #31 (**permalink**) 06-07-2008, 01:54 PM

K&N filters have always performed well for our quads and UTVs. But then again, we always properly care for and maintain them before every ride.

I too appreciate Todd's informations posted within this thread. Let the information flow (no pun intended) for the good of the riding community!

Brian B · #32 (**permalink**) 06-07-2008, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by HWTodd

There are several reasons this is a bad idea and the pic below is one of the main ones. K&N filters are known for letting to much dirt pass and losing the needed vacuum the slids need this should not perform that well.

While we value your presence and knowledge on the forums, You have no business slamming a paying vendors products.

lowes48 · #33 (**permalink**) 06-08-2008, 05:21 AM

Sorry But You Are Wrong Todd Didnt Slam Anybody Products Just Showing The Facts! We The People Who Make Up This Forum Want The Truth Not Somebody Just Trying To Sell Me Something.

Brian B · #34 (**permalink**) 06-08-2008, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by lowes48

Sorry But You Are Wrong Todd Didnt Slam Anybody Products Just Showing The Facts! We The People Who Make Up This Forum Want The Truth Not Somebody Just Trying To Sell Me Something.

Todd is welcome to start a new thread about why K&N filters are no good. He is NOT welcome to say these things in a vendors thread. Its in bad taste to do so.

I have used K&N filters for as long as I can remember, and have NEVER seen one pull in dirt like the one pictured here. I'll bet a hundred bucks that filter either was not oiled, or has a hole in it.

Whats so factual about a picture on the internet? Nothing.

Jaybo700R · #35 (**permalink**) 06-08-2008, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian B

Todd is welcome to start a new thread about why K&N filters are no good. He is NOT welcome to say these things in a vendors thread. Its in bad taste to do so.

I have used K&N filters for as long as I can remember, and have NEVER seen one pull in dirt like the one pictured here. I'll bet a hundred bucks that filter either was not oiled, or has a hole in it.

Whats so factual about a picture on the internet? Nothing.

Why would Todd lie? Its not like he owns UNI filters or anything.

OK, I've used K&N filters for years and years. Since I ride sand, I ride with an outwears over the filter. They have worked just fine for me, and I have noticed very little sand get past them. The key to them is keep them oiled and use an outwear on them at all times. I have a long record of defending K&N filters, at least for sand use.

Having said that, It is well known when you get in to really fine dust that the K&N will let some of this dirt by. This is not a big secret. Todd was only pointing that out, and it is very noteworthy since the FST is open and has no airbox for at least some protection from dust. I understand the vendors pay to be able to advertise within the forums, but having someone point out that it could cause thousands of dollars in engine damage, if you did not know about the very fine dust infiltration with K&N, even a freshly oiled one... I don't see the problem with that. Its a fair warning, but perhaps not in the same thread.

I read on the other forum that Todd is not planning to post here anymore..

I'm assuming because of this... That will be a big loss to this forum, since Todd seems more concerned with bringing out products he can prove works, rather than just putting out products only for the sake of profit. That is very refreshing to see in a vendor.

Oh, and to test out the K&N to see if it passes dirt? Just smear some white grease in a fine coating inside the air tract, just inside of where the filter sits... I did this, and it made me a believer in the Outerwears when riding in sand... yes, I saw sand particles embedded in the white grease without the Outerwears on.

BaD@$$RhInO · #36 (**permalink**) 06-08-2008, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaybo700R

Why would Todd lie? Its not like he owns UNI filters or anything.

OK, I've used K&N filters for years and years. Since I ride sand, I ride with an outwears over the filter. They have worked just fine for me, and I have noticed very little sand get past them. The key to them is keep them oiled and use an outwear on them at all times. I have a long record of defending K&N filters, at least for sand use.

Having said that, It is well known when you get in to really fine dust that the K&N will let some of this dirt by. This is not a big secret. Todd was only pointing that out, and it is very noteworthy since the FST is open and has no airbox for at least some protection from dust. I understand the vendors pay to be able to advertise within the forums, but having someone point out that it could cause thousands of dollars in engine damage, if you did not know about the very fine dust infiltration with K&N, even a freshly oiled one... I don't see the problem with that. Its a fair warning, but perhaps not in the same thread.

I read on the other forum that Todd is not planning to post here anymore..

I'm assuming because of this... That will be a big loss to this forum, since Todd seems more concerned with bringing out products he can prove works, rather than just putting out products only for the sake of profit. That is very refreshing to see in a vendor.

Oh, and to test out the K&N to see if it passes dirt? Just smear some white grease in a fine coating inside the air tract, just inside of where the filter sits... I did this, and it made me a believer in the Outerwears when riding in sand... yes, I saw sand particles embedded in the white grease without the Outerwears on.

Has anyone here seen the movie Bubble Boy? If so, you will know what I'm talking about. Remember the "Todd" cult? Thats what a lot of you remind me of. Maybe Todd should start his own forum. Just think, ToddKnowsEverything.net!

Jaybo700R · #37 (**permalink**) 06-08-2008, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BaD@$$RhInO

Has anyone here seen the movie Bubble Boy? If so, you will know what I'm talking about. Remember the "Todd" cult? Thats what a lot of you remind me of. Maybe Todd should start his own forum. Just think, ToddKnowsEverything.net!

Uh. Ok...

BaD@$$RhInO · #38 (**permalink**) 06-08-2008, 01:56 PM

Lol! I love it! Truth hurts

lowes48 · #39 (**permalink**) 06-08-2008, 03:53 PM

well maybe the people trying to sell something on here that post every day with something to sell post in the right spot not in performance!!!!

I forgot todd is trying to sell a airfilter kit also??????????? thier is alot of teryx forums out their and yes Todd has his own forum before this one was evan started!

race2win · #40 (**permalink**) 06-08-2008, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaybo700R

Why would Todd lie? Its not like he owns UNI filters or anything.

OK, I've used K&N filters for years and years. Since I ride sand, I ride with an outwears over the filter. They have worked just fine for me, and I have noticed very little sand get past them. The key to them is keep them oiled and use an outwear on them at all times. I have a long record of defending K&N filters, at least for sand use.

Having said that, It is well known when you get in to really fine dust that the K&N will let some of this dirt by. This is not a big secret. Todd was only pointing that out, and it is very noteworthy since the FST is open and has no airbox for at least some protection from dust. I understand the vendors pay to be able to advertise within the forums, but having someone point out that it could cause thousands of dollars in engine damage, if you did not know about the very fine dust infiltration with K&N, even a freshly oiled one... I don't see the problem with that. Its a fair warning, but perhaps not in the same thread.

I read on the other forum that Todd is not planning to post here anymore..

I'm assuming because of this... That will be a big loss to this forum, since Todd seems more concerned with bringing out products he can prove works, rather than just putting out products only for the sake of profit. That is very refreshing to see in a vendor.

Oh, and to test out the K&N to see if it passes dirt? Just smear some white grease in a fine coating inside the air tract, just inside of where the filter sits... I did this, and it made me a believer in the Outerwears when riding in sand... yes, I saw sand particles embedded in the white grease without the Outerwears on.

Must be the pain killers !!!!!

Mr. Off-Road · #41 (**permalink**) 06-08-2008, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HWTodd

There are several reasons this is a bad idea and the pic below is one of the main ones. K&N filters are known for letting to much dirt pass and losing the needed vacuum the slids need this should not perform that well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unleashed UTV

If you don't like K&N we can do a S&B or a True Flow. ... If you are not K&N person we have other avenue's!!

Heat shield and outer support bracket.

At the beginning of this thread Unleashed UTV and FST MOTORSPORTS didnt ever mention specifically that K&N Filters are sold with this setup. This post is about a filter support bracket and heat shield which allows the filter to be mounted to get more air. The cool thing about this setup is that you can use ANY kind of your filter of your choice, UNI, S&B, TRUE FLOW, AIR RAID, PEP BOYS, K&N, whatever. UNLEASHED UTV has many options for you to choose from.

I think if people want to discuss the *pros and cons* of "what filter is the best", it would be considered proper forum etiquette to open that discussion outside of this thread and in a new one, ... not a hard concept to grasp right?

grizzjeeper · #42 (**permalink**) 06-09-2008, 05:21 AM

Wait is this run by third graders?

I came to this forum to learn about what is best for my Teryx. As with all forums they are supported by vendoes, which choose to advertise because of site traffic.

Well guess what, you guys are shooting yourselves in the foot here, I can't beleive the ediquette crap line, or that Todd slammed another product. Whatever, So if I replied with the same info with my own expirience with K& N would I get the same treatment? Listen I don't know Todd or anyone on here from a hole in the wall, but the reason I am here is because of feedback. I don't want to have to refer to another post to get ALL THE INFORMATION needed for me to make a educated purchase.

Very dissapointed with the forum moderator. Anybody check the deffinition of "forum" Maybe the thread should be locked for vendor posts and not let anyone reply if it is only to be informational.

Mr. Off-Road · #43 (**permalink**) 06-09-2008, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by grizzjeeper

Wait is this run by third graders?

I came to this forum to learn about what is best for my Teryx. As with all forums they are supported by vendoes, which choose to advertise because of site traffic.

Well guess what, you guys are shooting yourselves in the foot here, I can't beleive the ediquette crap line, or that Todd slammed another product. Whatever, So if I replied with the same info with my own expirience with K& N would I get the same treatment? Listen I don't know Todd or anyone on here from a hole in the wall, but the reason I am here is because of feedback. I don't want to have to refer to another post to get ALL THE INFORMATION needed for me to make a educated purchase.

Very dissapointed with the forum moderator. Anybody check the deffinition of "forum" Maybe the thread should be locked for vendor posts and not let anyone reply if it is only to be informational.

No one is stopping you from making an educated decision for purchase. I never said Todd slammed someone. But rather than saying "There are several reasons this is a bad idea", it probably would have been better for *everyone* reading the thread to ask "what kind of air filter are you recommending with that new product?"

In regards to etiquette, ... Unleashed UTV was merely using their forum to promote new UTV products available through their store using this forum. Instead someone makes a comment about K&N and sets the whole thread off in a different direction. UNLEASHED UTV never said you have to get a K&N, They even offer different filter options, its your choice. But do it in a different post rather than hi-jacking this one and taking off what the original subject was about, which is a NEW PRODUCT PRESS RELEASE.

lowes48 · #44 (**permalink**) 06-09-2008, 11:06 AM

why why why is it if i see a problem with something that i start a new post??? so people must read 15 post to find the truth? If this filter damaged my motor is this vendor going to stand up and fix it?

grizzjeeper · #45 (**permalink**) 06-09-2008, 11:20 AM

Right on! As long as everone is civil and stating their OPINIONS, who cares if it comes from vendors or users? I can assure you the users ENCOURAGE opinions of the people "in the know"

Even furthermore I heard of talk about there being a vacumme in the airbox, I would like to learn more about this and see some dyno reports of the samples of no airbox and the effects etc. Two people can't be right, and the poor sap who does a search later on when this site is huge may not get the best answer because he didnt read ALL the threads. No Good...