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post #1 of 37 (permalink) Old 08-29-2012, 03:47 AM Thread Starter
 
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Question T4 Toe-in after recall??

Does anyone notice your front wheels being toed-in after the recall?? Tech told me Kawasaki wants .096" on each wheel..
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Does anyone notice your front wheels being toed-in after the recall?? Tech told me Kawasaki wants .096" on each wheel..
Yes. That was one of the first things I noticed, and it definitely wasn't like that before. I called the service department at my dealer and they told me it's supposed to be like that.

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Yes. That was one of the first things I noticed, and it definitely wasn't like that before. I called the service department at my dealer and they told me it's supposed to be like that.
Yeah i think it will cause alot of tire wear.. My tech is good and said that is what kawi wants..
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Yeah i think it will cause alot of tire wear.. My tech is good and said that is what kawi wants..
That's what I was thinking too. I drive a lot of pavement, so time will tell. Told my dealer that I'd call if I noticed abnormal tread wear.

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IMO toed in faster steering, toe out slower steering, zero toe wanders at high speed

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That's gonna piss me off. I like my wheels straight up and down and all under my vehicle. I know you west coast guys look for speed because your running high speeds in the desert, but us southern boys like the mud and low end torque. Tires being toed means less footprint which in turn means loss of traction. I guess I'll have to get the CATVOS sooner than I thought.
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Toe-in Inspection •Lift the front wheels off the ground. •Apply a heavy coat of chalk near the center of the front
tires. •Using a needle nose scriber, make a thin mark near the
center of the chalk coating while turning the wheel. •Set the wheels so that the marks on the tires are at the
front side and at the level of the axle height. •Ground the front wheels.
•Set the steering wheel straight ahead. •At the level of the axle height, measure the distance between
the scribed lines with a measure. •Move the vehicle rearward until the marks on the front
tires are at the rear side and at the same level as the axle. •Measure the distance between the scribed lines. •Subtract the measurement of the front from the measurement
of the rear to get the toe-in.
Toe-in of Front Wheels
Standard: 23 mm (0.91 in.) at 1G
Usable Range: 10 ∼ 30 mm (0.39 ∼ 1.18 in.)
If the toe-in is not the specified range,go on to the Toe-in
Adjustment procedure.
Toe-in Adjustment •Loosen the locknuts [A] on each tie-rod and turn the adjusting
rods [B] the same number of turns and the same
direction on both sides to achieve the specified toe-in.
Wheel Alignment
NOTE
○The toe-in will be near the specified range, if the length
of the tie-rod distance between the dust boot end [A] of
steering gear assembly and the locknut [B] is 97 mm
(3.8 in.) [C] on both the left and right tie-rods.
•Tighten:
Torque - Tie-rod End Locknuts: 45 N·m (4.6 kgf·m, 33 ft·lb)
•Check the toe-in again. •Test drive the vehicle.

I hope this helps. I know the 97mm(3.8in) is not right if you adjust with the tires. Its more like 82mm(3.25in) Thats the best my blind eyes work...lol

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Yeah, mine is toed WAY in. I'm gonna fix it myself, DONE with dealer service!

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Toe-in Inspection •Lift the front wheels off the ground. •Apply a heavy coat of chalk near the center of the front
tires. •Using a needle nose scriber, make a thin mark near the
center of the chalk coating while turning the wheel. •Set the wheels so that the marks on the tires are at the
front side and at the level of the axle height. •Ground the front wheels.
•Set the steering wheel straight ahead. •At the level of the axle height, measure the distance between
the scribed lines with a measure. •Move the vehicle rearward until the marks on the front
tires are at the rear side and at the same level as the axle. •Measure the distance between the scribed lines. •Subtract the measurement of the front from the measurement
of the rear to get the toe-in.
Toe-in of Front Wheels
Standard: 23 mm (0.91 in.) at 1G
Usable Range: 10 ∼ 30 mm (0.39 ∼ 1.18 in.)
If the toe-in is not the specified range,go on to the Toe-in
Adjustment procedure.
Toe-in Adjustment •Loosen the locknuts [A] on each tie-rod and turn the adjusting
rods [B] the same number of turns and the same
direction on both sides to achieve the specified toe-in.
Wheel Alignment
NOTE
○The toe-in will be near the specified range, if the length
of the tie-rod distance between the dust boot end [A] of
steering gear assembly and the locknut [B] is 97 mm
(3.8 in.) [C] on both the left and right tie-rods.
•Tighten:
Torque - Tie-rod End Locknuts: 45 N·m (4.6 kgf·m, 33 ft·lb)
•Check the toe-in again. •Test drive the vehicle.

I hope this helps. I know the 97mm(3.8in) is not right if you adjust with the tires. Its more like 25mm(3.25in) Thats the best my blind eyes work...lol

Thanks TXFIRE for the info.. Just don't understand why so much Toe-in now compared to stock..Gonna fix myself.
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I didn't notice any toe but I did notice that it wanders all over the place on me now on dirt roads. And it didn't do it before. So far I am TOTALLY disappointed in the recall work. Should have just left it alone.


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I just had mine done yesterday as well and could definatley feel it darting with way more sensitive steering while driving on a dirt trail. I'm going to take some measurements and try to even it out a little bit. I mostly drive on dirt but run it down to the store here and there. I think that it's not bad but could use some looking into.
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Thank GOD I didn't go with a Turd-X. Sorry to hear you all are having such issues...
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Thank GOD I didn't go with a Turd-X. Sorry to hear you all are having such issues...
What trying to reassure your self your purchase was not the big mistake you know it is.is that why your on this forum.

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Thank GOD I didn't go with a Turd-X. Sorry to hear you all are having such issues...
I'm assuming that you ride an xp4. Since we have so many ISSUES. Let's talk about the reverse chain on yours or maybe the poor twigs that Polaris calls axles or maybe the fire issues that the xp4's are having. We have some things that have been addressed by the manufacturer and are being rectified, big time, through extended manufactrurer warranty and even $$$ thru accessory credit. Poo-poo's have a lot of ISSUES that have to be covered out of the owner's pocket. Nothing that we have PREVENTS us from riding, it is strictly by choice. I think a fire would keep me from riding my machine. LOL So go on back over to your poo poo forum and try to figure out what's up with your machine.
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Just picked it up today and I dont see any toe in. Wont get it out on the trail for a few weeks so I'll have to see how it handles. Just unloading and parking in the garage felt fine. Keep us informed
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$300. Is a total joke. Better then nothing I guess but still a joke. My point wasn't to bash the machine both have issues, but to call out that I'm happy I'm not getting Kawasaki' big shaft stuck up my ace like you are by the way your local dealers are handling it. I would be pissed if I was one of you.
Personally I have not had any issues with my last RG 800 4 over 1500+ trouble free miles or my current XP4 1000+ miles also trouble free. (knock on wood)
Nothing that prevents you from riding you say? I think a major brake recall would prevent you from riding... Isn't that the direction the manufacturer gave you all...? Not to ride it before the recall gets done? And per what you are all posting the work isn't being done right and now you have a new issue & complaints about the machine.
I certainly don't regret my purchase, I just like to see what's going on with others, and after reading how Kawasaki dealers are messing with you all I'm even happier. Go Poolaris... Now go ride your now toed in mushy braked, clicking steering Forest Gump serviced Turdx ..lol

And don't get me started on the fact Kawasucki was the lead sponsor on the new POS bill that was passed in CA... those laws will be coming your way in the very new future!

Chuckling still over the $300. Might as well hold up some shiney keys and shake them to appease you...
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$300. Is a total joke. Better then nothing I guess but still a joke. My point wasn't to bash the machine both have issues, but to call out that I'm happy I'm not getting Kawasaki' big shaft stuck up my ace like you are by the way your local dealers are handling it. I would be pissed if I was one of you.
Personally I have not had any issues with my last RG 800 4 over 1500+ trouble free miles or my current XP4 1000+ miles also trouble free. (knock on wood)
Nothing that prevents you from riding you say? I think a major brake recall would prevent you from riding... Isn't that the direction the manufacturer gave you all...? Not to ride it before the recall gets done? And per what you are all posting the work isn't being done right and now you have a new issue & complaints about the machine.
I certainly don't regret my purchase, I just like to see what's going on with others, and after reading how Kawasaki dealers are messing with you all I'm even happier. Go Poolaris... Now go ride your now toed in mushy braked, clicking steering Forest Gump serviced Turdx ..lol

And don't get me started on the fact Kawasucki was the lead sponsor on the new POS bill that was passed in CA... those laws will be coming your way in the very new future!

Chuckling still over the $300. Might as well hold up some shiney keys and shake them to appease you...
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Where is that pic of the tacoed xp 4. The one where that sweet bolted together 2 piece frame is bent in half. Or all the ones where the a-arms get pulled off. Or the ones with those really strong rear control arms are bent. Or the ones that show all the egg shaped a-arm mounting holes that need to be fixed.......... Don't see Polaris stepping up to fix any of these issues.

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We are dealing with Kawasaki and there first gen problems but they will get worked out. Polaris is overpriced junk so I dont really even feel a response is needed. He will be wrenching on that junk soon enough. 1500 miles as if that is a lot. Ha! Time for a new clutch belt after that gruling 1500 miles I'm sure...
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$300. Is a total joke. Better then nothing I guess but still a joke. My point wasn't to bash the machine both have issues, but to call out that I'm happy I'm not getting Kawasaki' big shaft stuck up my ace like you are by the way your local dealers are handling it. I would be pissed if I was one of you.
Personally I have not had any issues with my last RG 800 4 over 1500+ trouble free miles or my current XP4 1000+ miles also trouble free. (knock on wood)
Nothing that prevents you from riding you say? I think a major brake recall would prevent you from riding... Isn't that the direction the manufacturer gave you all...? Not to ride it before the recall gets done? And per what you are all posting the work isn't being done right and now you have a new issue & complaints about the machine.
I certainly don't regret my purchase, I just like to see what's going on with others, and after reading how Kawasaki dealers are messing with you all I'm even happier. Go Poolaris... Now go ride your now toed in mushy braked, clicking steering Forest Gump serviced Turdx ..lol

And don't get me started on the fact Kawasucki was the lead sponsor on the new POS bill that was passed in CA... those laws will be coming your way in the very new future!

Chuckling still over the $300. Might as well hold up some shiney keys and shake them to appease you...
I think you're chuckling over the $300 to cover your tears because poo poo hasn't done anything to try and compensate their customers. I ride mine the entire time during the recall with not one issue. As far as the legislation, I don't know a lot but if you don't like it MOVE. If you think mine is such a Turd, then I'll meet you half way and we will hook to each other and I'll drag your ass back to California.
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I think you're chuckling over the $300 to cover your tears because poo poo hasn't done anything to try and compensate their customers. I ride mine the entire time during the recall with not one issue. As far as the legislation, I don't know a lot but if you don't like it MOVE. If you think mine is such a Turd, then I'll meet you half way and we will hook to each other and I'll drag your ass back to California.
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Lol . Better idea lets meet in Glamis and ride... If you can keep up!! That heavy Turd isn't much faster then a 700 Rhino....LMAO..

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If I wanted speed I would have bought a corvette. Down here in the south we run on torque. You pretty Cali boys can have them sand dunes.
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Drama aside...

I noticed no differance in my steering after the recall... and I ordered the brush guard and headlight guards with my 300.00... Better then nothing! Right?
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Polaris must be broke to much free time having to read teryx forum hey they make fair snowmobiles

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