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post #1 of 133 (permalink) Old 01-05-2014, 11:49 PM Thread Starter
 
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Belt issues 2014 teryx4

So i am on a mission to fix the issues i am having with belts on my 2014 teryx 4. I am trying to wrap my head around why it is happening to some and not others. Instead of hijacking threads i will start this one. Please if you own a 2014 post in here if you have or have not had the issue. let us know how you ride and average weight you ride with. Weather you ride mainly in low or in high. I will start out.
I completed my break in procedure pretty much to a t. Couple of times i used more then half throttle to get up certain obstacles. I always use low gear. I also run 28" rocktanes on double beadlock wheels. I usually run with about 550 600lbs of people and gear. At the time my belt blew i was just out of break in period. I had about around 900 lbs in the machine. I was traveling down a gravel rd at about 35 mph in high gear. I think it was the first time i had used high gear. There was a soft thud which i think was an outer layer coming off. then about another mile down the road the belt shredded into dust. I mainly ride slow technical trails and rocks.

Kawi did right by me and installed new clutches and belt under warrenty. They also told me they had a few issues at that time but thought it was bad belts. I thought no more of it untill issues started popping up on here.

Ever since the first belt issue i swear i can smell the new one burning. I decided to tear into the machine and see if i could figure it out myself. What i found is a terrible design flaw that never should have made it into the machine. The previous 2012 model i owned was nothing like this one. The old one had the cvt intake ran up to the top of the dash. This one is vented right above the cylinder head and covered with a rubber mat to hold in the heat built up from the motor. There is no way the belt can not run hot with the stock setup as it is pulling hot air from the motor into the clutch area. Some picks of the setup. First the rubber mat that holds in the heat.
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This is the tube as installed stock.
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And the tube itself that looks to be restricted on the amount of air it will flow.
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I am going to run the cvt intake up under the dash and see if this stops the problems i have been having. I hope it does as i love the teryx and do not want to lose my ass on a trade in for an inferior machine. Also i am shure kawi will take care of this problem but i want to ride and not have to worry about it like i have been.

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Havn't had a belt break yet but i could smell hot rubber last time out.. When they replaced your belt did they put the new belt with the new part number cause i was under the impression that they weren't available yet. There is a post from vfj on the speed limit removal thread with the new belt #...
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Belt issues 2014 teryx4

Now these are the pictures that everyone needs to see. This is so stupid to go from the old design to this. Not only is it pulling hot air from the motor it is also severely restricted with little airflow in this area as well as over a foot lower. They hit a home run with the 12/13 and struck out with the 14 as far as this goes.

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subscribed. Great info ubbb69!
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They must of had a crackhead design that.

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Wow that intake sucks, the already hot air has to make a 180* turn then is restricted in the narrow section before making the 90* turn into the CVT housing. That design was a failure from the start.

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Just do this it has to help.













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Is the 2014 T2 the same setup? Has anyone had an issue with them, as I've not heard of any?

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Is the 2014 T2 the same setup? Has anyone had an issue with them, as I've not heard of any?
They do. VFJ has had problems. He swapped out to 12/13 intake set up but still smelled burnt rubber. He is waiting on new part # belt.

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Belt issues 2014 teryx4

Magellan you're only half done, run them up to the roof now!


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Subscribing. I will have to take the iPad with me to the barn to fully understand the pics.
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Magellan you're only half done, run them up to the roof now!

HAHAHA Since I crawl and not deep water, I think I am good.

I hope John sees this and can let us know if we can go with the 2012-2013 Sheave and get more airflow. If I can, it should definitely run a lot cooler with the snorkel. I have not smelled the belt burn smell since this was installed.
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When I tore my machine down for inspection, I too noticed where the CVT venting was located. It didn't strike me as an engineering flaw because I'd never seen the previous setups. Truthfully, the venting is vaguely similar to the Rhino 700 I owned, at least in shape.

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CVT intake and exhaust vents:





Engine intake under the dash:





I run 28" tires as well but have not had any problems or burnt rubber smell... yet. This thing is a ton of fun and has great power even with stock drivetrain.

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So from the last pic you posted ChrisH, you installed prior model plastic intake for your CVT on your 2014?
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No, mine is 100% stock
EDIT: that is the air intiake for the engine, not the cvt intake

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AHHH I see. Was trying to view on my phone without my glasses. Sorry.
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Ok picked up everything i need i think. I have about $35 into parts. I stopped by muffler shop and had them bend up some 3" aluminized pipe for me. Also found some smooth wall flexible pipe at orielys. I will head out in a bit to start the install. The belt kawi put on mine is the old style. It was done a couple months ago.

After looking at the stock setup i can not see how sucking limited hot air can be good for the belt. I believe that no matter what else has to be done it is imparitive to move the intake up to clean fresh air. Ill have some pics in a bit.

Install is done. Took 1 to 1.5 hours for 1 guy. I had the machine tore down though and it is not back tog. I will call this stage 1 and say that magellen and i have stage 1 done. On to the pictures. They are not the best as the good camera had a dead battery. First the flexible 3"id pipe.

3" id aluminized pipe.

Pic installed with the insulation on it.

Pic showing flexible pipe droped down next to the airbox.

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Interesting.
So that's just 3" pipe with some flex pipe run up under the dash? I wish there was some way to quantify doing this snorkel: like belt temp before and after. I'm gonna hold off as I've not had any issues at this point but if I blow a belt in the future then it sure looks easy enough to snorkel the CVT intake.

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So that's just 3" pipe with some flex pipe run up under the dash? I wish there was some way to quantify doing this snorkel: like belt temp before and after. I'm gonna hold off as I've not had any issues at this point but if I blow a belt in the future then it sure looks easy enough to snorkel the CVT intake.
Yes 3" exhaust pipe. I am going to do whatever it takes to not be broke down 4 miles from phone service again. i was lucky it was on a road and not in the woods.
Pic of where i ran flexible pipe to.

All done ready to ride tom.
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Doesn't anyone ever clean their machines?
lol that is from yesterday and it is -5 here today. Usually it is spotless.
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Okay, I'll let you slide this time. Lol.

I was thinking of doing the same thing but adding a 3" marine bilge blower in line with a limit switch that kicks it on at around 190 degrees.
I really do not like to rely on electrical components for this issue. If needed i will switch clutches with 2012-2013. I know they move the air needed and it would not put me in the middle of nowhere with a fan not working. All i really want is my cake and to eat it to, is that so wrong
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Lmao! I think the same thing! I spent way too much on this thing to leave it muddy! But I will get it plenty dirty when riding it


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