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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 11-26-2008, 01:07 PM Thread Starter
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dalton clutch kit $

can anybody tell me what comes with the $360 kit. is it just the springs & weights? duz it come with plates. all i see in the ads is springs & weights.you would seriously have to be out of your damn mind to spend that kind of money on just springs & weights.


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I agree and that's why I went with the EPI Mudder kit. If the Dalton is better, it's not $160 better as far as I see. I love my EPI

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oh cool, i didn't realize the Dalton is adjustable. and just to clarify: I didn't mean it's not worth the extra $160 because I have no doubt and immense amount of development into it. it just didn't fit my budget.

from that post it looks like some people didn't see a difference from the EPI. fortunately, I have. it stalls higher and engages like a madman!!

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It is well worth the $$, I have about 170 trail miles on my Dalton kit and OD Cover and I would never even consider going back to stock. The Dalton setup is SO MUCH better. I am about to install a FST Std Bore Kit and Mickey also is a believer in the Dalton products.

The Dalton customer support is another reason that the extra 160 is well worth it. Dale will personally answer your questions which is awesome for the man himself to help you tune your clutch for YOUR riding style and customizations.. all for only 160 extra. Thanks Dale!!

You get a manual with the Dalton kit that is extremely informative and helps you understand what is going on with the clutch so you can more easily get the setup right the first time. Then you can tune the flyweights without removing them from the clutch. That is a killer feature, again, worth at least the extra 160.
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still did not answer my question. i'm sure the dalton kit is awsome. i'm asking what comes in the kit just weights and springs? plates yes or no. weights & springs just don"t justify $360 bucks. just my opinion.


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still did not answer my question. i'm sure the dalton kit is awsome. i'm asking what comes in the kit just weights and springs? plates yes or no. weights & springs just don"t justify $360 bucks. just my opinion.
I appoligize. I guess I'm assuming there are lots of pictures and descriptions of the clutch kit on here and on our website,and in the Factory Kawasaki accessory catalog that would show the components.I guess I shouldn't assume such things. The kit includes:

- two different optional primary springs for preferrence of engagement rpm(both of which have sufficient fully compressed load rating to work with the reccomended set up instructions in the kit). The Amber one took some doing and is progressive wound and was created specifically for this application after prototype testing.
-a secondary spring
-a set of our patented "quick adjust flyweights". These are billet heat treated tool steel and have extensive machining time because of it(along with the internal machining.) These flyweights have their own new curvature too. The result of real world testing.You can read the reasons why on our website .
-set screw stacks for quick adjust
-rivets(and extras) for the tip of the flyweight to change the "zone" of adjustment with the set screws.
-Set up manual for applications.


We are well aware that it is an expensive priced kit. We are also aware that the average consumer has no background to know what costs are involved in a project like this. We do not just put kits together with flyweights for some ATV model we had on the shelf(although now and then we get off easy like that),..most everything in this kit had to be designed specifically.Kawasaki themselves use a different curvature on the stock teryx flyweight than in atv models....the factory engineers did that for a reason(two people often on board,heavier vehicle,belt problems during testing,etc). Kawasaki themselves offer our kit as a performance clutch upgrade that has the ability to calibrate for different situations. This kit is available though KMC USA as part# K11001-403.

There are some out there who will definately see the longer term benefeits of the level of quality we strive for,and the flexibility this kit has produced.For some,it may be cheaper than having more than one case specific kits because they do different things and changing it out all the time if they switch tires ,etc. .....or maybe always not feeling sure they bought the "right kit " for their application...or maybe they will mod the machine later?..maybe they like to learn about cvt's and want to fine tune perfectly to have totally accurate clutching for their application?..

We have had excellent feedback on this kit.

Sorry I didn't answer you the way you expected,and that you feel the way you do about the price.I'm sure their are other options out there that are less expensive and I'm not trying to degrade them,It is good for consumers to have options when purchasing products.I'm simply explaining the features you asked about our kit.If you have further questions feel free to call or email .

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Also, so the people thinking about an OD or milled clutch cover get more of an idea what the aftermarket covers can do for you. I gained 3 or 4 MPH in LOW range with the Dalton Cover, I am assuming the other milled covers do a similar thing. Everybody talks about gaining top end, well, you also gain top end in L range. yea Baby!

For me this was a great thing as I ride 99% of the time on trails that require L and R and pretty much exclude H range. This was a great surprise for me and I figured I would share it.

Also since it is a Kawasaki part number and will not void the warranty, I am very happy!!

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awsome. you showed me what i wanted to see & hear thanks. now it looks well worth the money.


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kit do's not come with o.d plate that is another freakin $200 bucks. so that means $550 for a clutch kit. NOT WORTH IT.just my opinion.


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The fact you can add a modification, and not void the factory warr. is incredible!

That right there is worth it to many consumers with 4 1/2 year warr.
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Quality cost money!
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not always.


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kit do's not come with o.d plate that is another freakin $200 bucks. so that means $550 for a clutch kit. NOT WORTH IT.just my opinion.
Where else are you going to spend $200.00 & GET AN EXTRA 5 MPH???
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UTV crap sells the milled cover for $125, and it is the same as OD...it adds the 4-5 mph.
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awsome thanks greenthorn. if it do's the same thing as dalton o.d cap why spend more.


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Time will tell if the stock machined cover will hold up and not explode with power mods
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That is why their are differnt brands etc... some people are just cheap...If the value is their spend the money, it is only that money. These are toys if you dont want to spend the chedda keep the big wheel. personally a adjustable one is worth every penny. IMO...but dont make smart coments when a manufacturer takes the time to explain things on here. Show the guy a little respect. The person above with nothing butt negative comments should share some comments that support his opinion. I hate cheapskates and know it alls!!!
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The quality is in the Dalton clutch kit,flyweights & OD cover.Should be able to handle lots of HP & abuse.I have one, and will tell you how i like it ,after New Years at Dumont
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waytay i never said anything bad about their kit it sounds awsome but the price is what i was talking about not the workmanship involved. so keep your stupid ass remarks to yourself. by the way read the whole thread.


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Well the Dalton clutch kit is everything they say it is.My red teryx with the fat boy was at dumont;Comp Hill was a breeze to climb....The 840 Poflo motor/with dalton clutch would leave the line at 8100 rpm,hit the base of hill at 35mph at 8100 ,half hill 44 mph at 8100,top hill of hill at 39mph still at 8100rpm.All the back shifting as the hills got steeper kept the motor on its peak.Great product DALTON
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waytay i never said anything bad about their kit it sounds awsome but the price is what i was talking about not the workmanship involved. so keep your stupid ass remarks to yourself. by the way read the whole thread.
Fuck you dick head!!! You sound like your a cheap bastard!!!!! I did read the whole thread..seriously telling someone too keep their remarks to themselves on hear is pretty stupid. Why dont you read the remarks from the owner of dalton on some of the sites. A pretty cool guy.......give respect and you will get some till then...
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yes i am a dick head waygay. you sound like a spoiled little mommy's boy.cheap i don't think so, it's people like me that work in metal fab & know what r&d is and almost everything is done on a solidworks program which is sitting behind a computer that duz most the work and the material it takes to make these products are only a couple of dollars and a few minutes on a cnc machine.


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yes i am a dick head waygay. you sound like a spoiled little mommy's boy.cheap i don't think so, it's people like me that work in metal fab & know what r&d is and almost everything is done on a solidworks program which is sitting behind a computer that duz most the work and the material it takes to make these products are only a couple of dollars and a few minutes on a cnc machine.
Ok cool!!! Spoiled momas boy no! 45 years old and 1 kid in college, the other almost their. Now maybe my kids spoiled. Hey all slammin each other aside. I do appreciate someones opinion who makes shit and knows about stuff. I just seem to know more people who have used the dalton kits over epi because of being able to adjust it with out pulling everything apart. Some of the guys that have used epi's becuase they get sponsorship??? so I dont trust that opinion as much.... I guess I am one also who figures if its too good to be true than it is!!! BTW I recind my dick head comment.... Dont know you well enough yet!!!!! Adjustability is always a good thing.... Oh also did re read again. of course your original question is what comes with it?? good question... maybe epi will give their opinion and give their time like dalton did. people who do that will always get my money.....

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