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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-27-2019, 08:46 AM Thread Starter
 
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Looking for a softer ride

I'm looking for a softer ride on my 2016 t4. Mostly Rocky trail riding in northern Utah which sometimes entails obstacles. The goals would be a softer ride without sacrificing clearance. I think I have settled on bandit shocks, but I'm wondering if I should add a 2inch lift at the same time? Any advice in that regard would be appreciated. And if you do recommend a 2 inch lift, which one works well with bandits.
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post #2 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-27-2019, 11:53 AM
 
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Have you adjusted the stiffness on the current shocks? you can really soften them and stiffen them up with the oem fox units alone.

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We rode at Hatfield McCoy this past weekend with a few members on here, Barefoot on here led us and he has just put bandits on his machine, his wife and him said it was a world of difference, so you might wanna PM him, he knows about them,
He got me about talked into putting them on mine😁, but my wife about to put me out over mine

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We rode at Hatfield McCoy this past weekend with a few members on here...

Was that the parade of t4's I saw come through Ashland campground?
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We had 3 Teryx's , a razor, Honda 700-4, and a ranger, we did go threw ashland

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Bandit shocks all day long. I tried revalving my foxes. It did make it ride better but I still wasnít 100% happy with the results. Bought gen 2 bandits and itís like a night and day difference. No comparison to the fox shocks. I can ride a good 10-15 mph faster through the trails now without beating my self up. I went with the gen 2 due to not wanting to lift my Teryx. Bandit does offer some shocks that will provide lift and a better ride at the same time. Gen 3 and performance 2.0 I believe is what they are. Also think they ya e come out with some other new models as well. Give Bandit a call too, they are very willing to talk to you and answer any questions.


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We had 3 Teryx's , a razor, Honda 700-4, and a ranger, we did go threw ashland
That's the one. I like those flip up windshields a couple of your buggys had. I got some ideas for mine on the trip.


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Me too! Barefoot 100% correct. NO lift with bandits either, shocks will give ya lift. I will say settings on stockers to max soft, a 2" highlift kit and wheel spacers help some but doesn't do it enough. Also a radial tire like stock bighorns help some vs aftermarket stiffer tires. I am running the new Bandits and its 100% improvement. I am set on soft settings and it feels like a RZR xp. Or softer. Also gained 1.5-2" lift. I run at 13.5" clearance at lowest point vs 11" stock. BANDIT'S new version shock.

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Thank you all for the input, I'll be ordering some bandits! Of course I just went to their site and there's a splash page that says they are out riding until July 8th, great for them, bummer for me! I got a couple follow ups for you guys that have bandits. There are several models on their site. Gen2, gen 3 steel, gen 3 pro steel, gen 3 pro high volume steel, (also the trail series, but I don't think I want that one.) Which models do you guys each have and what are the real world differences?
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A cheap stop-gap could be the BP lift kit. It relocates the shock mounting points further in on the A-Arms, effectively lowering the spring rate which provides softer ride as a result while also giving you 1.5-2" of extra clearance.
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Thank you all for the input, I'll be ordering some bandits! Of course I just went to their site and there's a splash page that says they are out riding until July 8th, great for them, bummer for me! I got a couple follow ups for you guys that have bandits. There are several models on their site. Gen2, gen 3 steel, gen 3 pro steel, gen 3 pro high volume steel, (also the trail series, but I don't think I want that one.) Which models do you guys each have and what are the real world differences?


I went with the gen 2 bandits. Send them a email. They have answered me after hours and on the weekends.


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Me too! Barefoot 100% correct. NO lift with bandits either, shocks will give ya lift. I will say settings on stockers to max soft, a 2" highlift kit and wheel spacers help some but doesn't do it enough. Also a radial tire like stock bighorns help some vs aftermarket stiffer tires. I am running the new Bandits and its 100% improvement. I am set on soft settings and it feels like a RZR xp. Or softer. Also gained 1.5-2" lift. I run at 13.5" clearance at lowest point vs 11" stock. BANDIT'S new version shock.
Which model did you go with?
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I went with the gen 2 bandits. Send them a email. They have answered me after hours and on the weekends.
I just sent them an email. Did you go with medium or heavy springs? What's your typical load?
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I have the newer ones with reservoir compression and rebound extra length travel, not pro series. About $1350? They are well worth the $. I had a 2015 Trex with lift n spacers n it helped some but there is no comparison between the two in ride. I will say it was sportier with stock Fox but I also run the Bandits on really soft settings and it still handles decent. When I turn em up it is sporty and good but I run slower tech speeds most and kids n wife like a "Plush" ride.

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Thank you all for the input, I'll be ordering some bandits! Of course I just went to their site and there's a splash page that says they are out riding until July 8th, great for them, bummer for me! I got a couple follow ups for you guys that have bandits. There are several models on their site. Gen2, gen 3 steel, gen 3 pro steel, gen 3 pro high volume steel, (also the trail series, but I don't think I want that one.) Which models do you guys each have and what are the real world differences?


The bandit shocks not being in stock was a big part of the reason I went with the 814 shocks. The 814ís are similar to the gen 3ís for less money. They give you the lift and have a rebound adjustment. Both shocks are a huge improvement and are good shocks. I am very happy with mine.


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I have the Bandit Performance 2.0 versions on mine. Just looked at their website and don't even see them listed, but they are the same as the Gen 3 but without the reservoir and compression adjustment, thus a little cheaper. These are longer than stock and allows you to lift the machine without using a lift kit. This also gives you more total wheel travel (believe they advertise an additional 2" of wheel travel which is around a 25% improvement).

Previously I had the stock Fox shocks and Highlifter bracket lift. I had decreased the preload trying to make the ride softer and used the lift kit to not lose too much clearance. That really didn't help the ride much. After installing the Bandit shocks I removed the lift and dialed in the preload to achieve more lift than I had previously.

Earlier this month I rode for 3 days at Brimstone with two Wildcat XX's and a RZR 800. The Wildcats have 18" of suspension travel and the owners are former Teryx4 guys (both put 4,000-5,000 miles on T4's). Most of the time we were running the more technical /difficult trails but did run some higher speed main trails. These "main" trails had a surface about like a cobblestone road. They were amazed at the pace I could maintain through these areas without getting beat up and maintaining control of the machine. Both of them took turns following me and made comments at how well the suspension was moving. I'm not going to say my 10" travel T4 rode and handled as good as the 18" travel Wildcats, but the Bandits did make a huge improvement. Again, ride quality was much better but the biggest thing was a better feeling of being in control. With the stock shocks when you got going to fast I didn't feel in control as the machine would be bouncing and sliding all over the place. Now the machine feels planted.
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I have the Bandit Performance 2.0 versions on mine. Just looked at their website and don't even see them listed, but they are the same as the Gen 3 but without the reservoir and compression adjustment, thus a little cheaper. These are longer than stock and allows you to lift the machine without using a lift kit. This also gives you more total wheel travel (believe they advertise an additional 2" of wheel travel which is around a 25% improvement).

Previously I had the stock Fox shocks and Highlifter bracket lift. I had decreased the preload trying to make the ride softer and used the lift kit to not lose too much clearance. That really didn't help the ride much. After installing the Bandit shocks I removed the lift and dialed in the preload to achieve more lift than I had previously.

Earlier this month I rode for 3 days at Brimstone with two Wildcat XX's and a RZR 800. The Wildcats have 18" of suspension travel and the owners are former Teryx4 guys (both put 4,000-5,000 miles on T4's). Most of the time we were running the more technical /difficult trails but did run some higher speed main trails. These "main" trails had a surface about like a cobblestone road. They were amazed at the pace I could maintain through these areas without getting beat up and maintaining control of the machine. Both of them took turns following me and made comments at how well the suspension was moving. I'm not going to say my 10" travel T4 rode and handled as good as the 18" travel Wildcats, but the Bandits did make a huge improvement. Again, ride quality was much better but the biggest thing was a better feeling of being in control. With the stock shocks when you got going to fast I didn't feel in control as the machine would be bouncing and sliding all over the place. Now the machine feels planted.

This is great info, thanks! I'm relatively certain I'll be going with the standard V3 version, but I need to wait till they (bandit) get back into the office. One more question for all of you, are you guys running straps with your bandits?
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This is great info, thanks! I'm relatively certain I'll be going with the standard V3 version, but I need to wait till they (bandit) get back into the office. One more question for all of you, are you guys running straps with your bandits?
I'm in not currently running straps but Bandit does recommend it, though it's for a different reason than 814/Viking. For Bandits you use the straps to protect the shocks from over extending, as you run out of shock travel before binding the suspension.
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I went with the 814s awesome shocks for Arizona rising. My wife loves them. And Craig answers the phone and will talk to you and answer your ?s. Even help you set me up after hours
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I had an early set of Bandits. Had some early issues with blown hoses on the rear piggyback that Ted handled well. I blew a rear after some hard miles, sent them all in for service and a rebuild of the blown rear. That cost me nearly $700. Another 1200 or so miles and I had another rear shock blow out. I switched to 814's and have really enjoyed these. Both Bandits and 814's are a big improvement. IMO the 814s are a better product; however, I have no experience with the later model Bandits.
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