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Old 06-23-2019, 06:00 PM Thread Starter
 
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Another no start

I have a '15 T4 with 1500 miles, no mods. Went to take a ride yesterday, started as normal, let it warm up for a couple minutes and while talking to my wife it shut of. Wouldn't restart. Fuel pump comes on and pumps fuel out when you turn the key on. Took the pump out and filter is clean and no debris in the tank. Tank vent valve works one way when I blow into. Has spark. Starts with starting fluid. Tried tapping on the throttle bodies to see if maybe a stuck injector and nothing. Will start for a minute once in a while then shut off. Scratching my head on this one. My dealer sucks and will just throw parts at it.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 06-24-2019, 07:00 AM
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Sounds like a fuel delivery problem. Need to check pump output pressure. AND as a long shot, the tip over sensor will cause the same problem... I have the 2015 Teryx4 Camo and have not had that problem. Good Luck with the fix...
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Old 06-24-2019, 07:21 AM Thread Starter
 
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Hmmmm, didn't realize it had a tip over sensor. Where is it located?
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Old 06-24-2019, 08:27 AM
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It is located under the Control panel. Located to the right (passengers side) of 3 relays. Might remove it, turn it upside down, the reinstall it. While you are there the left most relay is the fuel pump relay. Might want to remove it and check for corrosion on the lugs. Reinstall. Also might want to remove and check the fuses. Reinstall them and see what happens. I have found that just the wiping action of removal-reinstall wipes away corrosion products from the mating surface of the components. Long shot, but I have had it work in the past...The info on the Vehicle Down Sensor are on page 3-59 under Fuel System (DFI) in the 2014 manual. I don't have the 2015 manual... Vehicle Down Sensor has Brown/Black, Brown/White and Yellow/Green wires attached...

The check Engine light, center light on the top of the LCD Display. IF the check engine light is on you need to test the system for the error code. Turn Ignition on, press the bottom left button for more than 2 seconds and a code will be displayed. To return to normal, turn power back off or hold button for 2 seconds...
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Ok, removed all the fuses and replaced, fuses are good. Unplugged all three relays, tried a brand new one I had in the box on all three individually. loosened that massive ground wire point and cleaned and tightened back down. Unplugged and turned the roll over sensor over, I can hear the ball moving around in it. Check engine light isn't on, and couldn't get any codes out of the cluster. Grrrrrrrrr
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Although new to teryx's the gas engine principle works on almost all gassers.


They need three things to work:


Fuel-Not just pressure but steady, see if you can google the flow rate and see if you can rig a cup and see how long it takes to fill x amount and compare.

Spark-Plugs sometimes are odd hence why I usually replace them a little before what the book calls for (on most not all applications), the ignition system plug wire, and igniter/coil, controller etc.

Air-Air filter is the easiest but the air intake the the throttle body, any sensors for idle control etc.

Once you've ruled those out you did good by checking fuses. now check your battery and starter. A weak battery can test good still and not turn the starter fast enough to turn over. Also check your starter and all the grounds.


Read some threads with some 09 models having bad connectors on the harness to the ECM so that would be good to check too.
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Old 06-24-2019, 10:14 AM Thread Starter
 
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Although new to teryx's the gas engine principle works on almost all gassers.


They need three things to work:


Fuel-Not just pressure but steady, see if you can google the flow rate and see if you can rig a cup and see how long it takes to fill x amount and compare.

Spark-Plugs sometimes are odd hence why I usually replace them a little before what the book calls for (on most not all applications), the ignition system plug wire, and igniter/coil, controller etc.

Air-Air filter is the easiest but the air intake the the throttle body, any sensors for idle control etc.

Once you've ruled those out you did good by checking fuses. now check your battery and starter. A weak battery can test good still and not turn the starter fast enough to turn over. Also check your starter and all the grounds.
It turns over and starts sometimes but shuts off so it's got plenty of juice. I'm going to go get plugs now.
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It turns over and starts sometimes but shuts off so it's got plenty of juice. I'm going to go get plugs now.
If its turning over and actually starting in the end it doesn't sound like spark plugs. That would be more along fuel or electrical. It def. wont hurt but it just doesn't sound like the solution. I would explore more with researching before throwing more money/parts personally. If all else fails taking it to a service shop is SOMETIMES cheaper for the fix. We've all been there a time or two.
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Old 06-24-2019, 11:23 AM Thread Starter
 
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Well plugs weren't bad nice brown color. Still nothing.
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Old 06-24-2019, 05:12 PM
 
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Well I had mine completely full of fuel where it was coming out to fill spout on the fuel tank and after we got to where we were going riding it was fairly warm and I think it build up pressure in the fuel tank and did not want to start. After I got it running it never had a problem again starting.

I personally think with it that full it was building fuel pressure and pushing back towards the motor flooding it somewhat
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Yeah, its bazar how the vent will allow air (and junk) in but won't allow pressure out. I ended up biting the bullet and ordered a new pump. If that's not what's wrong with it, I'll have one in stock when it does go. And if I take it to the dealer, they can't tell me it needs a $700 pump.
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do these have a low oil level sensor?

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do these have a low oil level sensor?
Yes, I pulled the connection and it is clean.
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Old 06-26-2019, 06:52 AM
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We don't have a low oil LEVEL sensor, but we have the low oil PRESSURE. This lights a dash light, but does not prevent you from starting or running the engine...

Hope the pump helps... And that you got an after market pump.... OEM is crazy expensive...

Bill in Spokane...
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We don't have a low oil LEVEL sensor, but we have the low oil PRESSURE. This lights a dash light, but does not prevent you from starting or running the engine...

Hope the pump helps... And that you got an after market pump.... OEM is crazy expensive...

Bill in Spokane...
Me too, yes $150 and it has a Kawasaki sticker on it.



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You might want to check your fuel for water? If you use regular pump fuel with menthol it can turn over the winter. drain some fuel out and put new gas in and try it then. Good Luck Gary
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Did you ever get this resolved, what were the issue(s)?

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Did you ever get this resolved, what were the issue(s)?
Sorry, I have not. The fuel pump didn't fix it, it is still at the shop. I will keep you updated.
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Fixed!!

Well I got it back yesterday. It was the tip/rollover/machine down sensor. Found a local guy that works on bikes and wheelers. Thanks for all of the tips and suggestions!!
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Just back from a 400mi trip. Ran flawless and had a blast!
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Iím having similar issues. Unable to get past 20mph, replaces fuel filter and pump, no luck with either of those fixing problem. Hard to start. I have a 2015, where and how do you check the rollover, machine down relay. Is it something that just needs reset, or replaced? This happened just out of the blue, perplexing!
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Old 11-29-2019, 06:51 PM Thread Starter
 
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Iím having similar issues. Unable to get past 20mph, replaces fuel filter and pump, no luck with either of those fixing problem. Hard to start. I have a 2015, where and how do you check the rollover, machine down relay. Is it something that just needs reset, or replaced? This happened just out of the blue, perplexing!
You need to take off the cowl panel (outer panel at the bottom of the windshield). On the passenger side, there are three relays the other sensor is the tip sensor. When I removed mine, I could hear the ball moving around, but it was still bad. The guy that fixed it had another Teryx and tried one from that.
Did you check your fuel vent also?
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