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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old 09-16-2018, 11:42 AM Thread Starter
 
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Bandit Gen 3 Shock Upgrade

Finally got the Gen 3 shocks installed. Incredible improvement over stock. I have a Dragonfire Racing 2 bracket lift which caused some issues with the front mounting. Had to have about 1/4 if metal cut off the top of the brackets for clearance. Without the lift bracket there would not have been any fitment issues.





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post #2 of 29 (permalink) Old 09-21-2018, 03:39 PM
 
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what year Teryx and what model and where did you purchase them from?
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bcalfo, you wrote, "Incredible improvement over stock". I'm curious what you noticed as better? Do the new shocks have better damping, a more comfortable spring rate, or just what???

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Thanks Barefoot.

Having rebound damping alone would be useful, let alone some of the other features.
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Its a 2014 T4. All around ride improvement. Not nearly as jarring when you hit bumps on the trail. Literally made running 35-40mph feel like I was gong 15-20. I have about 3000 miles on the machine and wish I would have done this upgrade from the beginning. Wed ride 80+ miles in WV some days and the next day Id feel like I got my ass kicked - this should totally alleviate that.


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Its a 2014 T4. All around ride improvement. Not nearly as jarring when you hit bumps on the trail. Literally made running 35-40mph feel like I was gong 15-20. I have about 3000 miles on the machine and wish I would have done this upgrade from the beginning. Wed ride 80+ miles in WV some days and the next day Id feel like I got my ass kicked - this should totally alleviate that.


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Thanks for the explanation of how you feel the Bandit shocks are an improvement over the stock Fox.

Did you tune the shocks at all to get where you are with them now, or were they that good with out-of-the-box settings?

I'm most interested in suspension topics as I have a long background with dirt bikes/MX. Greatest performance improvements on an MX bike are ALWAYS suspension/chassis over any engine improvements. I use to work for an AMA Hall of Fame rider back in the 70s.
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Theyre currently set as they were out of the box. Got a ride coming up next weekend so Ill probably play around with the rebound/compression then. I know I need to add a little preload in the front - lost about an inch of clearance after the springs settled. Im far from an expert on shock setup but the out of the box setup seems pretty damn good.


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Its a 2014 T4. All around ride improvement. Not nearly as jarring when you hit bumps on the trail. Literally made running 35-40mph feel like I was gong 15-20. I have about 3000 miles on the machine and wish I would have done this upgrade from the beginning. Wed ride 80+ miles in WV some days and the next day Id feel like I got my ass kicked - this should totally alleviate that.


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bcalfo,

What shocks did you have on your bike before? My 2016 T2 that came stock with Fox 2.0 shocks. I also ride WV and I regularly do more than 100 miles a day. I may be tired at the end, but its not because of the shocks. I set my shocks to their softest setting, my tires to 10 PSI and removed the front sway bar. I don't have long travel, but the ride isn't bad.

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I had the stock Fox 2.0 as well. 10lbs in the tires and sway bar disconnected also. I think they fixed the shock valving by 2016 but my 2014 rode rough even at the softest setting.


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I had the stock Fox 2.0 as well. 10lbs in the tires and sway bar disconnected also. I think they fixed the shock valving by 2016 but my 2014 rode rough even at the softest setting.


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The problem with the Fox shock is that since they don't have rebound damping adjustment then they might as well not have compression damping either. The rebound damping is set at whatever it is from the factory and it's likely set to balance with the compression damping set in the middle of the adjustment range. So, when the adjustable compression damping is turned to the softest settings (like many like to do) then when the suspension is run through a high speed section of washboard type bumps the shocks will 'pack'. What that means is the compression damping is set so soft that shocks compress faster than the rebound damping allows the shock to extend. The end result is the shocks essentially stay compressed all the way through the whoops/washboard bumps. However, if the Teryx is just being used for slow crawling/trailing the packing condition will not be realized.

If a person is using their Teryx in a mix of high speed and slow speed terrain I would expect the stock shocks to perform the best with the compression dampers set right in the middle of the adjustment range.
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I am definitely not a shock expert by any means, so I listen carefully to what you guys are saying, which is what this board is all about. I have no doubt that the ride of the Teryx can be improved, its just that for me and my riding style, the stock shocks do very well. I have ridden in a RZR on high speed bumps and jumps and the ride was amazing. The ride on my Teryx is similar to the ride I get out of my F250 Lariat. Its a very comfortable pickup truck feel. Definitely not "Stadium Truck" but a lot better than my old Willys Jeep

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I am definitely not a shock expert by any means, so I listen carefully to what you guys are saying, which is what this board is all about. I have no doubt that the ride of the Teryx can be improved, its just that for me and my riding style, the stock shocks do very well. I have ridden in a RZR on high speed bumps and jumps and the ride was amazing. The ride on my Teryx is similar to the ride I get out of my F250 Lariat. Its a very comfortable pickup truck feel. Definitely not "Stadium Truck" but a lot better than my old Willys Jeep
I 'hear' ya. And at 60yrs old now and just basically putting around in our Teryx the stock shocks set with the compression damping in the middle is fine for me also. But, it's nice to have options for those who need/want it and so it sounds like these Bandit shocks provide a good option for those who are looking to replace the Teryx stock shocks.
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I 'hear' ya. And at 60yrs old now and just basically putting around in our Teryx the stock shocks set with the compression damping in the middle is fine for me also. But, it's nice to have options for those who need/want it and so it sounds like these Bandit shocks provide a good option for those who are looking to replace the Teryx stock shocks.
I agree completely. And at 53 years old, I'm not that far behind you.

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If you guys ever rode in a Teryx with bandits you wouldn't want to get back into your's. The difference is that drastic.
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If you guys ever rode in a Teryx with bandits you wouldn't want to get back into your's. The difference is that drastic.
What else would you need, along with the shocks? Or is that all one needs? Or are the shocks just one part of it? Such as, lift kit, long travel arms, etc? I'm thinking from bone stock, are the shocks all you need to purchase to get that great ride? Or is that just one part of it?

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I ran just the shocks for a while which provided a great ride.Iam now running a 2 inch bracket lift. I am running the preloaded a little on the soft side so my buggy only sits an inch higher than stock. I have also pulled off the front sway bar. That is it.
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Are you still running your stock bushings too? I've heard the GP Bushing help also and thats something I plan to upgrade to when needed. A 2" bracket lift is already on order but I haven't gotten it in yet.

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Stock for now. I'll upgrade them as needed
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I swapped out the bushings on mine as well. Garage Products bushings are a great upgrade over stock.


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Please expound more on your Bandit Gen 3 shocks with the GP bushings. Im curious in more overall detail regarding your thoughts before and afterwards, change in ride, and how you have your shocks set.

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Its night and day difference from a ride quality standpoint. Much smoother and not as jarring over bumps. I only ride in WV mountains so its a good mix of trail conditions. Ive got my front compression set at 3 clicks from the softest and the rear set at 1 click from the softest. I left the rebound set as it came from Bandit (not sure what that is) and it seems about perfect.


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Good info bcalfo. Can I ask which rear spring rate you went with. Normal or the heavy ? And do you carry much weight

After 12,600 miles on my teryx4 and 2 sets of the the oem kyb shocks i finally blew another one and I installed a low mileage spare and now rear end is rough i keep looking at bandits i just worry my hard riding and abuse they won't last long and I have read some negative things about bandit not helping out after the sale
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I used the normal spring since its usually only me in the machine. I carry a storage box in the back bed but its only about 50lbs. Definitely havent had any customer service issues - in fact just the opposite.


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