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post #1 of 60 (permalink) Old 09-30-2018, 10:58 AM Thread Starter
 
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Looking for just a bit more ground clearance

Hi guys, I recently purchased a 2018 Teryx 4 LE 8 days ago and I've put about 90 miles on it. My last trip out on the trails I had two passengers in addition to myself. There were a couple areas where I dragged the underbelly of the T4, mainly in the rear. Looking for just a touch more clearance and wondering what the best way to go would be.

I don't want a lift kit as I don't want to significantly alter the handling characteristics. I'm thinking either go a little higher on the tire pressures or maybe adjust the preload slightly? I know this will also alter the handling, but they're also not permanent changes.

Another thought was going with 28" tires but I've been doing tons of searches on this and i'm getting mixed results on clearance/rubbing with 28" tires. I'm actually liking the stock Maxxis BH 2.0 tires and if 28" is a workable option, I would probably stick with those.
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I did the 28" terache tires. Really like them and no rubbing till I was on some really nasty steep stuff with the wheel at full lock and pretty much the whole weight of the machine on one wheel. And it wasn't that bad at all. My buddies with the rzr are getting annoyed that I can go up steeper stuff than they can with my new tires.


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taller tires are a start.....

28-10x14's actually measure 27" (ish) tall
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I did the 28" terache tires. Really like them and no rubbing till I was on some really nasty steep stuff with the wheel at full lock and pretty much the whole weight of the machine on one wheel. And it wasn't that bad at all. My buddies with the rzr are getting annoyed that I can go up steeper stuff than they can with my new tires.


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Do you know large do those run compared to say a 28" BH 2.0?

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taller tires are a start.....

28-10x14's actually measure 27" (ish) tall
Which tires are those? Also liking your windshield setup. What kind is that?
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Do you know large do those run compared to say a 28" BH 2.0?







Which tires are those? Also liking your windshield setup. What kind is that?


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Big horns have air. Terache's don't. They got a little bigger with air


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Were your BH tires 26 or 27"
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Were your BH tires 26 or 27"


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This is mine with 28x10 pro armor crawlers with zero offset wheels and there was absolutely no rubbing with this set up.

Rubbing all depends on wheel offsets and what tire tread you choose and what tire manufacturers you go with. Some run big on size and some small.


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This is mine with 28x10 pro armor crawlers with zero offset wheels and there was absolutely no rubbing with this set up.

Rubbing all depends on wheel offsets and what tire tread you choose and what tire manufacturers you go with. Some run big on size and some small.


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I’ll be running the stock 14” wheels that come on the LE and wondering how the BH 2.0 28” compare size wise to the examples posted here.
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A 2" Lift will not "significantly alter your handling characteristics". I have ran a 2" lift for 1500 miles and have not had one "handling" issue. These are Teryx's, not 120 hp RAZR that you are ripping around corners. What im saying is that you will not even notice and handling differences by adding a 2" lift and that will give you that much needed Ground clearance that you seek. a 2" lift and 28" make a big difference in the capability of our Teryx machines. I run a 2" lift and 30" tires and have put it through some pretty hardcore situations here in Alaska and have not had any issues, even fully loaded down with Moose and Caribou stacked in the back. Dont be scared of doing a 2" lift.
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A 2" Lift will not "significantly alter your handling characteristics". I have ran a 2" lift for 1500 miles and have not had one "handling" issue. These are Teryx's, not 120 hp RAZR that you are ripping around corners. What im saying is that you will not even notice and handling differences by adding a 2" lift and that will give you that much needed Ground clearance that you seek. a 2" lift and 28" make a big difference in the capability of our Teryx machines. I run a 2" lift and 30" tires and have put it through some pretty hardcore situations here in Alaska and have not had any issues, even fully loaded down with Moose and Caribou stacked in the back. Dont be scared of doing a 2" lift.
I've been reconsidering the lift after seeing so many with a 2" kit. When I looked up the high lifter 2" I'm only coming up with 2.5" on their site. Is that what most people are running? If not, will that extra .5 put too much stress on the CV joints?
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I've been reconsidering the lift after seeing so many with a 2" kit. When I looked up the high lifter 2" I'm only coming up with 2.5" on their site. Is that what most people are running? If not, will that extra .5 put too much stress on the CV joints?
I dont think the .5" will make any diffference and will not put your CV's in anymore of a strain. I have a buddy with 12,000 miles, yes 12,000 miles on his teryx and has suffered ONE broken axle in all those miles with a 2" lift. Like I said I have 1500 miles on mine and my CV's are as tight as they were on day one.
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I run the Highlifter kit and did not notice any handling differences, but did notice the increased ground clearance. Since the initial run I did back off the preload (lowered) it a little so probably only about 1.5" of lift. The lift with 28" tall tires makes a big difference.
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What are peoples thoughts about the HighLifter vs Brute Performance kits? The Brute Performance kit is 2" and doesn't require any drilling or potential notch cutting of the frame.

It looks like the HL kit achieves it's lift by raising the mounting point of the shocks and the BP kit achieves it's lift by shifting the mounting point further inside the A arms
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What are peoples thoughts about the HighLifter vs Brute Performance kits? The Brute Performance kit is 2" and doesn't require any drilling or potential notch cutting of the frame.

It looks like the HL kit achieves it's lift by raising the mounting point of the shocks and the BP kit achieves it's lift by shifting the mounting point further inside the A arms
I have a 2016 T2 and I just this past week installed the Highlifter 2" lift kit so I felt compelled to speak to this.

First off, if you read the instructions, you will note that it calls for cutting a notch in your frame for axle clearance on the rear of the bike. I did not do this and after talking with others on this site, I could not find anyone else that did this either. And after installing the kit, I saw no reason for it whatsoever. There is plenty of frame clearance without concern for rubbing.

Now, having said that, if I had it to do all over again, I would likely go with the Brute Performance lift instead. I don't know if it gives you the same amount of lift, but its a much easier install and it relocates the shocks slightly and might even improve ride, but again, speak to someone who has that kit installed for actual experience.

As for the Highlifter, I will say this: The front brackets were a snap to install. The rear were a total PITA. I hated it so much that I even contacted the company and complained. I even asked them why they didn't design the bracket to be at the top of the shock instead but they didn't have any answer for that.

As for the final results, the kit did perform as advertised. The rear lift gave exactly 2.0 inches of lift. The front came out to 2.5 inches.
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What are peoples thoughts about the HighLifter vs Brute Performance kits? The Brute Performance kit is 2" and doesn't require any drilling or potential notch cutting of the frame.



It looks like the HL kit achieves it's lift by raising the mounting point of the shocks and the BP kit achieves it's lift by shifting the mounting point further inside the A arms


The brute performance lift will give/can give you 2 inches lift. What I mean is, if you just install the brackets you will only get about 1 inch of lift. You have to adjust the preload on your shocks to achieve the next inch. All the reviews on this lift have been great. People say it even rides better. I have one but have not tested it yet to give my opinion.


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I feel the need to jump in and say I recently installed a super atv 2 inch lift. The install was easy and the kit is heavy duty compared to others. There was no cutting, no drilling, no welding. I personally think it is a far superior lift and highly recommend it
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Forgot to mention that you do need a set of 1.5 inch wheel spacers for rear or stock tires will hit the shocks, but that also gains stability of your Teryx
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I feel the need to jump in and say I recently installed a super atv 2 inch lift. The install was easy and the kit is heavy duty compared to others. There was no cutting, no drilling, no welding. I personally think it is a far superior lift and highly recommend it
What makes the Super ATV kit superior than say the Brute Performance kit? The benefits over the High Lifter are obvious in that it requires no drilling or potential cutting but the Super ATV kit alone costs $30 more than BP, in addition to that it requires $85 wheel spacers on the rear and potentially another $85 for front spacers if you want to even it out. An extra $115-$200 is a pretty big ask unless it does something drastically better than the competition.
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The first thing you need is a set of heavier springs...I put 450 lb on mine . A lot of people "cheat" and crank the preload down to gain added lift ; but , this makes the ride suffer . I bought the Highlifter kit , but didn't install the rear brackets , just the front . Running 27-9-12 Dirt Commanders all the way around...they evidently run small , because they weren't any taller than the 26" 2.0's . I still bottom out occasionally but not like before .
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A buddy of mine had the highlifter brackets bend on him, that's why I won't use that type, I agree using heavier springs is better than cranking on the stock weak springs
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As mentioned above I have the Highlifter, but would have seriously considered the Brute Performance kit if it was available at the time. As far as installing the Highlifter kit I guess I don't see the huge issue in drilling a few holes and would prefer doing that versus messing with the brakelines and bleeding the system as required with the SuperATV kit.

In regards to notching the frame with the Highlifter kit that is specified as an optional step IF there is clearance issues between the inner CV boot and frame. I've never heard of anybody needing to notch the frame, and don't see why this condition would be unique to the Highlifter kit.......regardless of what style lift it is doing the same thing of pushing the outer end of the a-arm and axle downwards which puts the inner CV boot closer to the frame because of the increased angle.

I am surprised to hear that somebody bent the Highlifter brackets as that is the first time I have seen that comment made. Not saying it didn't happen or anything like that, but would be interested in seeing pictures and details behind it. The Highlifter brackets are thicker steel than the stock and really don't look like they would have much, if any, additional leverage on them.
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Sorry I have no pictures of the bent brackets. As for the rest of it , it's a matter of what you are comfortable with, I'm not comfortable with drilling holes, just as I would never drill holes in the already weak roll cage to run wires. I would much rather replace a hard brake line with a flexible braided one and bleed the line, very easy. So I'm sorry if I offended anyone by saying I think that the satv 2 inch lift is superior as I stated, ( I think ) simply a matter of opinion.
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Sorry I have no pictures of the bent brackets. As for the rest of it , it's a matter of what you are comfortable with, I'm not comfortable with drilling holes, just as I would never drill holes in the already weak roll cage to run wires. I would much rather replace a hard brake line with a flexible braided one and bleed the line, very easy. So I'm sorry if I offended anyone by saying I think that the satv 2 inch lift is superior as I stated, ( I think ) simply a matter of opinion.
LOL! I don't think you offended anyone! We are having a valuable conversation and thats what this board is all about.

If you have seen a problem with a particular product, definitely let us know! You might just save the next guy some headache! Pictures are great, but not always available and thats OK. But it would help identify the exact issue or maybe the cause of the problem. But not having a picture doesn't mean we don't want to hear about it! Some of the sellers are on this site too and I am sure they would like to know as well. So please, by all means, keep the stories and personal experience coming!
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