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2017 Teryx, Will Not Start Normally, But Will Only Start When Throttle Is Opened 25%, Then Runs Very Rough

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#1 ·
I am looking for advice on what might have happened with a 2017 Teryx 2 seater, that was running great! Then one day, the vehicle would not start by simply turning the key. The starter motor does turn over the engine, but it does not seem to be firing in the cylinders. In the past the vehicle would start quickly with a just the slight turn of the key. The vehicle is about 3 years old, and as about 1500 miles, with very limited off road use.

However, when the throttle(gas pedal) is now opened about 25%, the engine will start, but it sounds very rough, as if it is possibly only firing on one cylinder(which is a just a guess). When the throttle(gas pedal) is released then engine will not idle and dies.

Panel Indicator Lights:
When the ignition key is turned to the on position, the panel shows a flashing oil light, and a solid EPS light. Then the throttle is opened about 25% and the engine is started, the engine is slow to start, and runs very rough, (it runs but something is definitely not working correctly) then the oil pressure light goes off...indicating there is oil pressure, and the EPS light also goes off...indicating that the ECU may be functioning normally(just a guess) Also the check engine light is not on before or while the engine is running....possibly indicating the ECU is getting all of the correct electrical signals.

My initial guesses at what might be happening are:
1. Bad or very dirty spark plug(s) in the cylinders...possibly caused by engine oil blow by.
2. Bad coil not allowing one cylinder to fire correctly.
3. A possible fuel injection issue, fuel-air mixture not getting to one or more of the cylinders...possible bad fuel injection sensor.

I have seen a similar situation on certain motorcycles(Honda XR650) when the CDI module has a solder joint failure....the engine is very difficult to start, and then runs very rough. Does the Teryx have a similar electronics module that could be causing this problem?

I am not very familiar with fuel injected Kawasaki engines, and would welcome any comments that folks might have on the possible causes.
 
#2 ·
That sucks! How long has it been sitting? Do you run premium(non-ethanol) fuel or? I've had fuel in other engines go bad after sitting a few months, like smell like rotten ass bad then had some that lasted a year and was fine.

I guess I'd check the simple things first, stinky gas, check for spark on both cylinders, or with it running unplug a coil or injector to see if it changes how it runs...Could even possibly be low fuel pressure. I haven't had to deal with any of these problems yet but hopefully someone else could chime in with more experience.
 
#4 ·
Andy, Monksblood,

Thank you for the Awesome Comments & Recommendations!

The vehicle was sitting mostly unused for April, May & June with very little use in that time frame, maybe 15 minutes max.

Low fuel pressure, clogged fuel filter, bad gas, dirty spark plugs, dirty air filter, could be the cause of the rough running and hard starting.

I am going to order replacement plugs, and filters before pulling off the seats and covers and diving in.
 
#5 ·
UPDATE:

I disassembled the vehicle, and found that the mice/rats, basically ate the wires leading to the injectors. There is a space between the two throttle assemblies that was as big mouse nest. The purple injector wire was completely chewed, the other wires were partially chewed by the mice. See attached photo, The injector wiring harness had a significant amount of wrapping/insulation on it (from kawasaki), but the 2 inches of wires leading to the injectors, also needs more shield/wrapping to prevent this from happening in the future.
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#7 ·
I know this is an older post but just adding in my comments and experience for people that may search posts in the future. My '15 had similar issues as described in the first post....basically went from running fine to extended cranks and holding down the gas to start, and running really rough, overnight. The front plug was bad (obvious it wasn't firing when I pulled it), and everything has been fine since.
 
#8 ·
I know this is an older post but just adding in my comments and experience for people that may search posts in the future. My '15 had similar issues as described in the first post....basically went from running fine to extended cranks and holding down the gas to start, and running really rough, overnight. The front plug was bad (obvious it wasn't firing when I pulled it), and everything has been fine since.
The problem you explained was exactly what mine was doing. It is a 2017 Kawasaki 800 Teryx. I disconnected the rear plug and tried to start it and it wouldn't even fire. I reconnected the rear plug and disconnected the front plug. It started and ran rough, like you described. I replaced the front plug and now it is running like new. I use my teryx around the house to do yard work. Don't know what would cause the plug to go bad. I only have 250 hrs on the machine. When I purchased the new plug I did a continuity test on the center electrode. It showed an open just like the old plug. But the new plug worked just fine. Not sure why the plug electrode has no continuity. I will have to try and youtube it.