Thanks I will check them out!Ah yes... the ol' Frog Togg ventilation seam, we've seen it many times, lol. I have had good luck with Carhartt rain gear for general outdoor use. They have some cheaper sets that are a thicker rubber/PVC like material that are great for keeping water out, but also great at keeping sweat in, so I stay away from those personally - but they are very durable so may work well for kids? I like the Storm Defender series of jackets and I think the pants I have are the Shoreline pants. They are breathable and waterproof and pretty durable. Check out Sierra Trading Post online, you can sometimes find good deals on Carhartt gear, as well as other good outdoor brands.